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Post by NovaStorm on Apr 5, 2014 6:21:12 GMT
May came before Dawn, Dawn is just a ripoff of May.
This is a common and very popular remark made by many Dawn critics. Not just Advanceshippers, but other shippers as well, notably Pokeshippers. It is obviously because Dawn is also a coordinator and the switch to TPCi that many fans disagree about. Usually a remark such as this one is more about the pokegirls themselves but Ash can sometimes be tied in. There are things that some (not all) older shippers cannot see that set Dawn apart due to bias or nostalgia. Well nostalgia is different for everyone, but bias is really something else. Saying that May is better just because she came first is all just emotion. It wouldn't be the same if Dawn came first, now would it?
This is how I feel when people say that May is better than Dawn for coming first. This also refers to those saying "the show sucked" after AG, but oh well. At least Ash had actual rivals in DP (no May's rivals didn't make up for the rivals Ash didn't have, except for Advanceshipping of course)
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Post by Blackscorpion2 on Apr 5, 2014 9:53:16 GMT
I highly disagree about Dawn being May's 'Rip-off' -_- Dawn is more skilled and capable as both coordinator and trainer. She beat May in the Wallace cup(did I mention Dawn starting her journey after may did?).
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Post by A-Complexity on Apr 5, 2014 10:21:27 GMT
It's an overrated argument, based on emotion and nostalgic feelings. It's just like the hatred towards May having in the new AG series, because of Misty's departure. I seriously can't take these kind of remarks serious.
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Post by ShizukuScribbles~ on Apr 5, 2014 10:50:01 GMT
Advanceshippers in general became very irate after Hikari beat Haruka in the Wallace Cup. Dawn became more skilled than May in my opinion towards the end of DP. Most Pokeshippers who say this,have not watched even 15 episodes of DP. I've been through many arguments on places like Youtube and FanPop to say this without a shadow of a doubt.
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Post by A-Complexity on Apr 5, 2014 10:54:24 GMT
They, the AdvanceShippers, sure think that Haruka is better than any other Pokégirl. Full of bias. Really immature to hate Hikari for winning the Wallace Cup and being a better coordinator. Another reason based on emotions. PokéShippers, I think they didn't even watch the series after the end of OS?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 19:21:39 GMT
the new girl beats the old girl. may didnt battle misty sadly, dawn beat may, iris beat dawn. May beat Zoey who is Dawn's gary and she can never defeat her. just like Ash with Gary...(Ash won because red beat green in a similar fashion and ash is loosely based on red and gary green)
dawn is more accomplished than May and the fact they made her not only a female lead character a COSTAR if you will they made her a female Ash and gave the trials of a main character in a shojo rather than a secondary character in a shounen.
also, may used a newly evolved glaceon vs. Dawn's pikachu in piplup advantage Dawn. May vintage if i was Dent's lines is Beautifly for contest and Blaziken for battles.
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Post by FinesseMalkin on Sept 6, 2014 9:50:38 GMT
Ridiculous. If this argument is valid, then all of Ash's female companions would be a rip off of Misty. They are clearly so different to each other.
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Post by Madun on Sept 6, 2014 20:11:58 GMT
In fact, Dawn is probably the most unique of them in the sense that she's a co-star and not merely a companion.
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Post by NovaStorm on Sept 6, 2014 23:09:15 GMT
Dawn lost to Iris when Dawn's not even a trainer and the 'excuse' was Dragonite. However, both May and Dawn are coordinators and Dawn won. Plus, can you imagine Serena beating Iris?
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Post by ravencupid on Sept 6, 2014 23:19:13 GMT
I honestly cannot imagine that XD
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