May Came Before Dawn

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May Came Before Dawn Apr 5, 2014 6:21:12 GMT via mobile

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Post by NovaStorm on Apr 5, 2014 6:21:12 GMT

May came before Dawn, Dawn is just a ripoff of May.

This is a common and very popular remark made by many Dawn critics. Not just Advanceshippers, but other shippers as well, notably Pokeshippers. It is obviously because Dawn is also a coordinator and the switch to TPCi that many fans disagree about. Usually a remark such as this one is more about the pokegirls themselves but Ash can sometimes be tied in. There are things that some (not all) older shippers
cannot see that set Dawn apart due to bias or nostalgia. Well nostalgia is different for everyone, but bias is really something else. Saying that May is better just because she came first is all just emotion. It wouldn't be the same if Dawn came first, now would it?

This is how I feel when people say that May is better than Dawn for coming first. This also refers to those saying "the show sucked" after AG, but oh well. At least Ash had actual rivals in DP (no May's rivals didn't make up for the rivals Ash didn't have, except for Advanceshipping of course)

Blackscorpion2 Hoenn Champion Stop bein' such a smart-a**! Posts: 716 Shipping Allegiance: Pearlshipping MBTI: ENTJ Badass Punchline: You think you suffered true pain? GOOD! This means you actually stood up for something.	May Came Before Dawn Apr 5, 2014 9:53:16 GMT JohtoFesta likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Blackscorpion2 on Apr 5, 2014 9:53:16 GMT I highly disagree about Dawn being May's 'Rip-off' -_- Dawn is more skilled and capable as both coordinator and trainer. She beat May in the Wallace cup(did I mention Dawn starting her journey after may did?).

A-Complexity Hoenn Champion Not active. Available on MyAnimeList and Discord. Posts: 766 Shipping Allegiance: Pearlshipping MBTI: ISTJ	May Came Before Dawn Apr 5, 2014 10:21:27 GMT JohtoFesta likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by A-Complexity on Apr 5, 2014 10:21:27 GMT It's an overrated argument, based on emotion and nostalgic feelings. It's just like the hatred towards May having in the new AG series, because of Misty's departure. I seriously can't take these kind of remarks serious.
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May Came Before Dawn Apr 5, 2014 10:50:01 GMT PokeGurl, FluffyAltaria, and 1 more like this

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Post by ShizukuScribbles~ on Apr 5, 2014 10:50:01 GMT

Advanceshippers in general became very irate after Hikari beat Haruka in the Wallace Cup. Dawn became more skilled than May in my opinion towards the end of DP. Most Pokeshippers who say this,have not watched even 15 episodes of DP. I've been through many arguments on places like Youtube and FanPop to say this without a shadow of a doubt.

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May Came Before Dawn Apr 5, 2014 10:54:24 GMT JohtoFesta likes this

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Post by A-Complexity on Apr 5, 2014 10:54:24 GMT

They, the AdvanceShippers, sure think that Haruka is better than any other Pokégirl. Full of bias. Really immature to hate Hikari for winning the Wallace Cup and being a better coordinator. Another reason based on emotions. PokéShippers, I think they didn't even watch the series after the end of OS?

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May Came Before Dawn Apr 6, 2014 19:21:39 GMT

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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 19:21:39 GMT

the new girl beats the old girl. may didnt battle misty sadly, dawn beat may, iris beat dawn. May beat Zoey who is Dawn's gary and she can never defeat her. just like Ash with Gary...(Ash won because red beat green in a similar fashion and ash is loosely based on red and gary green)

dawn is more accomplished than May and the fact they made her not only a female lead character a COSTAR if you will they made her a female Ash and gave the trials of a main character in a shojo rather than a secondary character in a shounen.

also, may used a newly evolved glaceon vs. Dawn's pikachu in piplup advantage Dawn. May vintage if i was Dent's lines is Beautifly for contest and Blaziken for battles.

FinesseMalkin Webmaster came back with a good haul of bullets. three in the leg. two in the chest. Posts: 241 OTP: Me and your daddy. He's my daddy now. Shipping Allegiance: Pearlshipping MBTI: INTJ	May Came Before Dawn Sept 6, 2014 9:50:38 GMT JohtoFesta likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by FinesseMalkin on Sept 6, 2014 9:50:38 GMT Ridiculous. If this argument is valid, then all of Ash's female companions would be a rip off of Misty. They are clearly so different to each other.
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ravencupid Hoenn Elite Posts: 386 Shipping Allegiance: Pearlshipping MBTI: INFP Badass Punchline: No one can be a replacement for another person	May Came Before Dawn Sept 6, 2014 23:19:13 GMT via mobile NovaStorm and JohtoFesta like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ravencupid on Sept 6, 2014 23:19:13 GMT I honestly cannot imagine that XD

JohtoFesta: Nesh I'll say! I love how Pearl comes out on top no matter what. The writers respecting Dawn and her best-friendship with Ash even to this day is AMAZING. This is what she deserved. It makes sense she'd be the one to be there for him. This is all I wanted

Nov 7, 2022 4:41:38 GMT

auda: It's up and ready now, go check it out! It's been a reeeally long wait for that manga to get translated. This was literally a, "if you want something done, do it yourself" thing for me. Hope you all enjoy.

Nov 2, 2022 6:40:46 GMT

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