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Post by PlatinumAmourshipping on Oct 28, 2016 22:24:08 GMT
I used to really enjoy Pearlshipping, like a lot! It was like my OTP and I thought nothing could beat it. Then Serena and Amourshipping came around and I began to like that too, just not as much as Pearl. Of course, liking both ships meant I was in both Pearlshipping communities and Amourshipping communities. And that's when it all changed. (Just hear me out please and you can tell me how much you disagree with me after I say all that I need to say. You should probably not read all of it since it's so long, it's just a rant that I need to let out before I exploded. But go ahead and read all of it if you want. No one's stopping you.) I started to notice how bad the Pearlshipping community actually was, or at least was getting. It wasn't that bad before, but when Amourshipping started gaining popularity, the Pearlshipping community really went downhill. I think Pearlshippers may have seen Amour as a big rival and so they started bashing and hating on not just the ship, but Serena as well. Many Pearlshippers say they hate Serena's character when I'm almost certain that if it wasn't for her crush on Ash and the popularity of Amour, Pearlshippers would really like Serena. The big problem here is that I always see Pearlshippers complaining about how Amourshippers are crazy little brats who are compeletely insane, desperate, annoying, etc. Though I don't see that as much in the Amour community as much as I see it in the Pearl community. Let's face the facts here, it truly seems like you are the ones who are desperate here, creating a site with a whole section dedicated to Pearl vs any other Ash shipping. You don't see any other community doing that now do you? (Not that I know of anyways. Feel free to inform me and link me to it if there is one though) Not trying to sound rude or anything, but Pearlshippers are the last ones who should call any Amourshippers desperate. "Fanbrats" aren't born, they are created (If that makes any sense at all). This goes for all ships. Pearlshippers complain about Amourshippers being annoying and all "in your face" with Serena when, if it wasn't for Pearlshippers and Pokeshippers bashing on Amour as soon as it became popular, then maybe you wouldn't have to deal with them. But now, you created your own problem and annoyance, so now you have to deal with it. Okay, sure, maybe some people are naturally bratty when it comes to their favorite ships, but maybe if you didn't crap on it all of the time, the problem wouldn't be as bad as it is now. Anyways, not all Amourshippers are bad, in fact, I've hardly met any bad ones (Not saying that there wasn't any because there definitely was). And trust me Pearlshippers, you have just as many "fanbrats," if not more, than Amourshipping. However, your fanbrats are different. Which brings me into my next problem. So many Pearlshippers act like they are so kind and respect the other ships, but that is not the case at all. While Amourshippers, Pokeshippers, and even genwunners take the heat of being called the most cancerous communities in all of Pokémon, no one really pays attention to just how cancerous the Pearlshipping community is. In your section of "Amourshipping vs. Pearlshipping" you Pearlshippers say you are "discussing" this topic, when more than half of you are just straight up bashing Amourshipping. I've seen literally every other ship have calm discussions about what ship they think is better and not having to bash on another ship to make their's seem better, but in the "Amour vs Pearl" section, it seems that a lot of you can't make Pearlshipping look good without bringing down Amourshipping. What's that about? If you truly believe your ship is great, there should be no need to do this, but I guess even you guys are starting to see that Ash and Dawn are nothing more than best friends (Just messing with you guys. Kinda). Their closeness is truly amazing and makes for a great friendship. Sorry if I just made a few of you mad. But in all honesty, my brother and I act the same way as these two, maybe even closer than Ash and Dawn. Maybe that's why it's kind of awkward for me when I see people hardcore shipping these sometimes. My last problem with the Pearlshipping community is probably the one that bugs me the most. The Pearlshipping community is flat out IGNORANT when it comes to Serena. Most Pearlshippers straight up hate Serena, and like I said before, if it wasn't for her popularity, and her being the biggest threat to Pearl, I know for a fact that the majority of Pearlshippers would like her, even though most Pearlshippers will argue to the death that that's not the reason why they don't like Serena (which would be complete bull crap). Then Pearlshippers have the NERVE to say that Serena doesn't have as much character development as Dawn?! You've got to be kidding. Like I said, flat out ignorance at its best. If you want an explanation on why Serena's character development even surpassed that of Dawn's, you can go here: blackotakuz.deviantart.com/journal/Why-Serena-is-my-favorite-character-from-Pokémon-552296442You can also check that link to discover why Serena is not a stalker. Which again, that's laughable that so many Pearlshippers think that. It's not logical. For example, when a student leaves, let's say a book, on the table next to mine, I'll either pick it up and follow them until I'm able to catch up to them in order to give it back, ask someone if they know where that person's next class is so I can bring it to them, or ask somebody else to bring it to them if I don't have time to do it myself. What's the problem with that? I mean, it is their's right? They probably want it back, even though they don't realize they don't have it at the moment. So it would be the right thing to do for me to bring it back to them, correct? Does that make me a stalker. No it does not. Anyways, Serena didn't only leave to see Ash, she also left to get away from Rhyhorn Racing. Maybe it's different for me because I know the feeling of having someone force you to do something you don't like and then trying to make up literally any excuse to get away from them. Also, why do some Pearlshippers think that Serena would be jealous of the close relationship between Ash and Dawn. The only times Serena ever got jealous was when that teacher sounded like she was hitting on Ash and when Miette asked if Ash had someone to "take care of him." I don't know about you Pearlshippers, but it's pretty normal to get jealous when someone appears to be hitting on someone that you like. I'll admit, I would be a little jealous too. But the point is, Serena really isn't the overly jealous type. So it wouldn't make any sense for her character to get jealous over Ash having a platonic relationship with Dawn. Their practically like brother and sister, no need for Serena to be jealous. Anyways, if Ash were to ever pick someone else, Serena might be a bit sad and jealous at first, but I think she would ultimately be happy for Ash because she would want him to be happy. In all honesty, Dawn and Serena would definitely be really close friends. So Serena going to Hoenn could mean some PlatinumAmourshipping XD. Like Amourshipping who? Pearlshipping what? Just kidding. But I do believe that they would be THE DYNAMIC DUO OF THE CENTURY XD. Okay, maybe not to that extreme, but you do get what I'm trying to say. Some of you Pearlshippers make absolutely no sense. You'll say the Amourshipping bulbapedia page is full of crap, but then turn around and say that the one for Pearlshipping is spot on. You'll say that Serena is too girly and that's why Dawn is better, so does that mean you think that every girl like Dawn in real life is automatically better than every girl like Serena in real life? Logic right? You'll say Serena took far too long deciding on her dream when that's actually more relatable than basically knowing what you want to do right away like Dawn. I know people who are seniors in high school, people who are already in college that don't even know what they want to do with their lives yet. Some of you said that Amourshipping was not going to go anywhere and that the writers were going to end Amour just like they ended every other Ash ship, but when Serena finally kisses Ash, you say it doesn't mean anything because Ash didn't reciprocate. We saw their feet for crying out loud. We don't know what he did, all we know is that Serena kissed him. I think this will kind of explain the whole kiss thing though: www.tumblr.com/search/ash%20kiss(The one titled "Watched the last episode with subs". Remember to proceed to this page with caution when clicking on the link my dear Pearlshippers, don't want you to throw up from all the Amourshipping XD) Speaking of the kiss, you can't ignore how much power Amourshipping has. That would be very ignorant for anyone to ignore the power of Amour. I'm not saying it's canon, I'm definitely not saying that, and I'm also not saying that it's better than every other Ash ship. Amour itself brought so many people back to the Pokemkon franchise and then they stayed for the awesomeness that was XY&Z. Next, just because you don't like Serena or Amour does not mean you have to say that XY&Z is completely overrated and that DP is better. Frankly, you could say the same thing about DP. While it was airing, DP was just as overrated as XY&Z is now. And when S&M gets going, the hype for XY&Z will settle down. And maybe then you can stop giving some bullcrap excuse in why DP is so much better than XY&Z. Also, many Pearlshippers say that Serena is getting shoved down our throats, but how can we get her down, when at the same time, Pearlshippers are trying to shove Dawn down our throats. I can't eat two ten year old girls at the same time. Give me a breather. I'm so sorry for this long rant and I know that none of you will read that entire thing, but I wouldn't either XD. I just had to get this off of my chest. It was building up for so long and it needed to be said. No one was saying anything about how out of line many Pearlshippers are starting to get, so I decided to be the one to say something (Don't get me wrong, all these shipping communities have their "out of hand" members, but I don't want to see my favorite two ships go down THAT road. I'm ranting at Pearlshippers because I feel like they are closer to Pokeshipping rock bottom than Amourshipping is). Since I know you didn't read all of it, I at least hope you read a little bit of it and understand what I'm trying to say. Sure, all communities have their cancer members and their chill members, but I felt like this one was starting to lean more towards the cancer side. I don't want to see this community becoming as bad as Pokeshippers, but if Pearlshippers keep going at this rate, you might just get there. I'm not trying to bash Pearlshipping, definitely not. I couldn't because it still holds a place in my heart, just a smaller space than it did before. If you guys keep going at this rate, with all this hating and negativity, you're going to push a lot of your fans right into the welcoming arms of Amourshipping, just like you did to me. Hope you understand. I don't know, maybe learn to like Amourshipping, because we all know it's not going anywhere anytime soon. And if you see an Amourshipping fanbrat, feel free to tell them that they have no right to bash someone else's ship because Amour isn't canon yet . (I like how I said I had one last problem with Pearlshipping/Pearlshippers and then went on for like another five million words XD.)
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Post by PlatinumSun on Oct 28, 2016 22:35:58 GMT
Maybe you're right! But don't dismiss everything the Vaultians say! There are flawed members here but so do Amours in general.
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Post by IceArceus on Oct 28, 2016 22:47:52 GMT
PlatinumAmourshipping A lot of what you said relates to the mentality of this community three years ago. I headed it as an impulsive 15 year old at the time. I'm sure you (and the vast majority of people) were also somewhat a douche at that age (or you haven't reached it yet!). The board titles are just representative of any debate that goes on. I try and make it about compare and contrast (now. I was bashier when I was younger) but inevitably some people still take it to flat out insulting Amour these days. A lot of what you said is true but you're generalising as well. I think there are parts of hating FROM amourshippers you haven't seen on youtube. I'm not trying to justify cancerous activity from the Pearlshipping side, but it's impossible to say which side is more cancerous because it's impossible to quantify. Also, before you think I'm a mental OMG ASH AND DAWN ARE SO ROMANTIC THEY SHOULD BE TOGETHER FOREVER Pearlshipper, I do think Ash and Dawn are best friends, at the age of 10, with the potential
for romance when they're older. Also, I have a brother, and we're best mates, but we act nothing like Ash and Dawn. That might be to do with personalities of various female-male siblings, which means to some, Ash and Dawn might act like brosis, but to others, they don't. My personal view on Serena now. I don't flat out hate her. There are parts of her I like, and I don't. Amour out of all the ships is the closest to canon. I haven't mentioned this on the forum but I have no reason to dislike the kiss scene other than what Serena said- that Ash is her "goal" and for me, saying a guy is my goal disagrees with my principles, so there's my personal reason for disliking that scene, and why I just can't like Amourshipping (and why I'm eager to watch the Sun and Moon comedy for what it is). Not to say other people can't like Amourshipping though. I'm probably missing some parts I could say more on, but you don't sound like an illiterate randomer, so I assume we might exchange more posts. You threw some banter my way so Imma do the same to you- get off the high horse a bit yeah? Or maybe just have one foot on a stirrup. Oh yeah, before you hint any more that this site is desperate let me just say the whole Project Pearlshipping started because my friend and I were bored. Maybe these three years were obsolete, maybe they weren't? And I did read your entire rant.
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Post by TK on Oct 28, 2016 22:57:17 GMT
I didn't read all of that but i'ma reply to the section I read, About the pearl community, yes there are people who bash and hate, but that's in every community, I see more amourshippers bashing and hating than pearlshippers, i'm a pearlshipper so there is some bias but same can be said for you as an amourshipper!
And Pearl fans hating on serena just because of her crush is not true, at least not in my case, i wasn't much into shipping when xy started but still couldn't connect with serena, she just seemed like a side character with no focus but her crush to pull views, later on that may have changed a bit but i still couldn't connect with her and didn't like her and i don't hate everything about her! And me not liking serena doesn't mean i hate amourshippers or their community.
And the point of this site is not to hate and bash other ships, it's for us to hang out and talk about the thing we love and discuss it, it's like a facebook fanpage just bigger, i don't know about forums but i know other communities have their fanpages and stuff like that!
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Post by Amsiulx on Oct 28, 2016 23:41:38 GMT
I used to really enjoy Pearlshipping, like a lot! It was like my OTP and I thought nothing could beat it. Then Serena and Amourshipping came around and I began to like that too, just not as much as Pearl. Of course, liking both ships meant I was in both Pearlshipping communities and Amourshipping communities. And that's when it all changed. (Just hear me out please and you can tell me how much you disagree with me after I say all that I need to say. You should probably not read all of it since it's so long, it's just a rant that I need to let out before I exploded. But go ahead and read all of it if you want. No one's stopping you.) I started to notice how bad the Pearlshipping community actually was, or at least was getting. It wasn't that bad before, but when Amourshipping started gaining popularity, the Pearlshipping community really went downhill. I think Pearlshippers may have seen Amour as a big rival and so they started bashing and hating on not just the ship, but Serena as well. Many Pearlshippers say they hate Serena's character when I'm almost certain that if it wasn't for her crush on Ash and the popularity of Amour, Pearlshippers would really like Serena. The big problem here is that I always see Pearlshippers complaining about how Amourshippers are crazy little brats who are compeletely insane, desperate, annoying, etc. Though I don't see that as much in the Amour community as much as I see it in the Pearl community. Let's face the facts here, it truly seems like you are the ones who are desperate here, creating a site with a whole section dedicated to Pearl vs any other Ash shipping. You don't see any other community doing that now do you? (Not that I know of anyways. Feel free to inform me and link me to it if there is one though) Not trying to sound rude or anything, but Pearlshippers are the last ones who should call any Amourshippers desperate. "Fanbrats" aren't born, they are created (If that makes any sense at all). This goes for all ships. Pearlshippers complain about Amourshippers being annoying and all "in your face" with Serena when, if it wasn't for Pearlshippers and Pokeshippers bashing on Amour as soon as it became popular, then maybe you wouldn't have to deal with them. But now, you created your own problem and annoyance, so now you have to deal with it. Okay, sure, maybe some people are naturally bratty when it comes to their favorite ships, but maybe if you didn't crap on it all of the time, the problem wouldn't be as bad as it is now. Anyways, not all Amourshippers are bad, in fact, I've hardly met any bad ones (Not saying that there wasn't any because there definitely was). And trust me Pearlshippers, you have just as many "fanbrats," if not more, than Amourshipping. However, your fanbrats are different. Which brings me into my next problem. So many Pearlshippers act like they are so kind and respect the other ships, but that is not the case at all. While Amourshippers, Pokeshippers, and even genwunners take the heat of being called the most cancerous communities in all of Pokémon, no one really pays attention to just how cancerous the Pearlshipping community is. In your section of "Amourshipping vs. Pearlshipping" you Pearlshippers say you are "discussing" this topic, when more than half of you are just straight up bashing Amourshipping. I've seen literally every other ship have calm discussions about what ship they think is better and not having to bash on another ship to make their's seem better, but in the "Amour vs Pearl" section, it seems that a lot of you can't make Pearlshipping look good without bringing down Amourshipping. What's that about? If you truly believe your ship is great, there should be no need to do this, but I guess even you guys are starting to see that Ash and Dawn are nothing more than best friends (Just messing with you guys. Kinda). Their closeness is truly amazing and makes for a great friendship. Sorry if I just made a few of you mad. But in all honesty, my brother and I act the same way as these two, maybe even closer than Ash and Dawn. Maybe that's why it's kind of awkward for me when I see people hardcore shipping these sometimes. My last problem with the Pearlshipping community is probably the one that bugs me the most. The Pearlshipping community is flat out IGNORANT when it comes to Serena. Most Pearlshippers straight up hate Serena, and like I said before, if it wasn't for her popularity, and her being the biggest threat to Pearl, I know for a fact that the majority of Pearlshippers would like her, even though most Pearlshippers will argue to the death that that's not the reason why they don't like Serena (which would be complete bull crap). Then Pearlshippers have the NERVE to say that Serena doesn't have as much character development as Dawn?! You've got to be kidding. Like I said, flat out ignorance at its best. If you want an explanation on why Serena's character development even surpassed that of Dawn's, you can go here: blackotakuz.deviantart.com/journal/Why-Serena-is-my-favorite-character-from-Pokémon-552296442You can also check that link to discover why Serena is not a stalker. Which again, that's laughable that so many Pearlshippers think that. It's not logical. For example, when a student leaves, let's say a book, on the table next to mine, I'll either pick it up and follow them until I'm able to catch up to them in order to give it back, ask someone if they know where that person's next class is so I can bring it to them, or ask somebody else to bring it to them if I don't have time to do it myself. What's the problem with that? I mean, it is their's right? They probably want it back, even though they don't realize they don't have it at the moment. So it would be the right thing to do for me to bring it back to them, correct? Does that make me a stalker. No it does not. Anyways, Serena didn't only leave to see Ash, she also left to get away from Rhyhorn Racing. Maybe it's different for me because I know the feeling of having someone force you to do something you don't like and then trying to make up literally any excuse to get away from them. Also, why do some Pearlshippers think that Serena would be jealous of the close relationship between Ash and Dawn. The only times Serena ever got jealous was when that teacher sounded like she was hitting on Ash and when Miette asked if Ash had someone to "take care of him." I don't know about you Pearlshippers, but it's pretty normal to get jealous when someone appears to be hitting on someone that you like. I'll admit, I would be a little jealous too. But the point is, Serena really isn't the overly jealous type. So it wouldn't make any sense for her character to get jealous over Ash having a platonic relationship with Dawn. Their practically like brother and sister, no need for Serena to be jealous. Anyways, if Ash were to ever pick someone else, Serena might be a bit sad and jealous at first, but I think she would ultimately be happy for Ash because she would want him to be happy. In all honesty, Dawn and Serena would definitely be really close friends. So Serena going to Hoenn could mean some PlatinumAmourshipping XD. Like Amourshipping who? Pearlshipping what? Just kidding. But I do believe that they would be THE DYNAMIC DUO OF THE CENTURY XD. Okay, maybe not to that extreme, but you do get what I'm trying to say. Some of you Pearlshippers make absolutely no sense. You'll say the Amourshipping bulbapedia page is full of crap, but then turn around and say that the one for Pearlshipping is spot on. You'll say that Serena is too girly and that's why Dawn is better, so does that mean you think that every girl like Dawn in real life is automatically better than every girl like Serena in real life? Logic right? You'll say Serena took far too long deciding on her dream when that's actually more relatable than basically knowing what you want to do right away like Dawn. I know people who are seniors in high school, people who are already in college that don't even know what they want to do with their lives yet. Some of you said that Amourshipping was not going to go anywhere and that the writers were going to end Amour just like they ended every other Ash ship, but when Serena finally kisses Ash, you say it doesn't mean anything because Ash didn't reciprocate. We saw their feet for crying out loud. We don't know what he did, all we know is that Serena kissed him. I think this will kind of explain the whole kiss thing though: www.tumblr.com/search/ash%20kiss(The one titled "Watched the last episode with subs". Remember to proceed to this page with caution when clicking on the link my dear Pearlshippers, don't want you to throw up from all the Amourshipping XD) Speaking of the kiss, you can't ignore how much power Amourshipping has. That would be very ignorant for anyone to ignore the power of Amour. I'm not saying it's canon, I'm definitely not saying that, and I'm also not saying that it's better than every other Ash ship. Amour itself brought so many people back to the Pokemkon franchise and then they stayed for the awesomeness that was XY&Z. Next, just because you don't like Serena or Amour does not mean you have to say that XY&Z is completely overrated and that DP is better. Frankly, you could say the same thing about DP. While it was airing, DP was just as overrated as XY&Z is now. And when S&M gets going, the hype for XY&Z will settle down. And maybe then you can stop giving some bullcrap excuse in why DP is so much better than XY&Z. Also, many Pearlshippers say that Serena is getting shoved down our throats, but how can we get her down, when at the same time, Pearlshippers are trying to shove Dawn down our throats. I can't eat two ten year old girls at the same time. Give me a breather. I'm so sorry for this long rant and I know that none of you will read that entire thing, but I wouldn't either XD. I just had to get this off of my chest. It was building up for so long and it needed to be said. No one was saying anything about how out of line many Pearlshippers are starting to get, so I decided to be the one to say something (Don't get me wrong, all these shipping communities have their "out of hand" members, but I don't want to see my favorite two ships go down THAT road. I'm ranting at Pearlshippers because I feel like they are closer to Pokeshipping rock bottom than Amourshipping is). Since I know you didn't read all of it, I at least hope you read a little bit of it and understand what I'm trying to say. Sure, all communities have their cancer members and their chill members, but I felt like this one was starting to lean more towards the cancer side. I don't want to see this community becoming as bad as Pokeshippers, but if Pearlshippers keep going at this rate, you might just get there. I'm not trying to bash Pearlshipping, definitely not. I couldn't because it still holds a place in my heart, just a smaller space than it did before. If you guys keep going at this rate, with all this hating and negativity, you're going to push a lot of your fans right into the welcoming arms of Amourshipping, just like you did to me. Hope you understand. I don't know, maybe learn to like Amourshipping, because we all know it's not going anywhere anytime soon. And if you see an Amourshipping fanbrat, feel free to tell them that they have no right to bash someone else's ship because Amour isn't canon yet . (I like how I said I had one last problem with Pearlshipping/Pearlshippers and then went on for like another five million words XD.) First of all, welcome to the forums (that's a long rant you just wrote xD) Regarding the disliking Serena and Amour fact, for me it's because I can't get myself to see her character as more than a trope and Cash and Views grab. The thing about her that I dislike (apart of her introduction flashback history) is her overexploited crush on Ash takes a great part of her character and I can't see her as more than a girl with a one-track mind on finding love and nothing more than that and I wouldn't wanna be in a relationship with a person like that, so how can you expect that I would want a character that I like (Ash in this case) to be with her too? I like to say that I respect your opinion if you want Serena and Ash to be together, then that's totally cool for me, I respect your opinion(You must be pretty happy with XYZ finale ) and I just ask of you to respect mine. On the Pearlshipping acting dumb and bashing others, I honestly haven't see Pearlshippers like that, BUT like the people above me said, every fanbase has his annoying part, some people dislike PART OF amour I think because they shippers can be seen in lots of places talking about how her ship is the best and blah- blah, hell, believe me when I say that I always find at least 1 Amourshipper in advanceshipping or pokeshipping videos for example saying how that's dumb and Serena is best for Ash. Well, here is what I think... NOONE is best for NOONE It's all a matter of opinions, and my opinion is that I prefer Dawn to be with Ash since for me, they were the ones who worked better together but I see why people would want Ash to stay with Serena if that's their opinion then that's fine too, What is NOT fine is for people to bash other opinions beign Pearlshipper,Amourshipper,Pokeshipper or anyone else, we all should respect everyone else's opinions.
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Post by *skeltal screeching* on Oct 28, 2016 23:53:41 GMT
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Post by princessbisket on Oct 29, 2016 4:22:12 GMT
I'm sorry that you feel that way about the community. But if you really find the pearlshippers unlikeable here, don't let that ruin your enjoyment of pearlshipping. You can always not come in here & still enjoy what you enjoy. I personally do not find people here that bad, though maybe I'm a bit baised as I don't like amourshipping/Serena & like pearlshipping/dawn. And besides, the _________shipping vs pearlshipping is basically for comparison, not to attack other main companion ships. And even if someone is 'downplaying' Serena/amourshipping in the 'amourshipping vs pearlshipping' threads, don't they have that right to see certain hints & serena that way? Even with those Well thought out views on 'development on Serena & how dawn isn't as developed' that's just all opinion not fact. Your fine to your opinion, like it's okay for me to believe May is the most developed pokegirl (and imo the only one to really receive any kind of development at least personality development). I may dislike amourshipping, but I don't mind civil amourshippers. And trust me as a non-amourshipper I've seen very few civil ones. I see most parade around how amourshipping 'is coming & all other ash &a Serena ships fail & will never be canon & thoese who ship something else are wasting their time!' It seems you are not like tha, in which I appreciate about you And about my sig, it's just a joke. I honestly don't believe ashxtrevor is more likely than ashxsrrena XD and my status, is just really how I feel. I am really tired of amourshipping bringing everywhere & find it boring. But that is just me, as i dislike the ship XP I am a multishipper (I like ash better with someone else and same with dawn), so it's not cuz 'amourshipping Getz in my way of mai otp!' That I hate amourshipping. Nor do I hate Serena 'cuz her crush.' IMO both just don't appeal to me. But I dislike it when people act superior to each other cuz what they ship whether it's a amourshipper or a pearlshipper & there's no denying that I've seen bad pearlshippers as well. I do hope that you can find someway to enjoy it here dispite liking both & seeing some negativity.
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Post by Games23 on Oct 29, 2016 4:30:19 GMT
You made a very good point. I really think that the Pokémon community should stay together as one, and respect each other when it comes to shipping.
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Post by PlatinumAmourshipping on Oct 29, 2016 7:00:39 GMT
I appreciate all the nice replies. And I'm definitely not going to stop liking a ship just because of other people.
And yeah, I've had to deal with people from every shopping community. From Pokeshipping - Amourshipping. In fact, a few hours ago, I got involved in this argument with a few Amourshippers and a few Pearlshippers (I think we should all know what the topic was about) and the people from both sides made me cringe. They were all so annoying. They alerted acting as if they couldn't have a civilized conversation without hating on each other and the other side's ship.
To be honest, at times, there are people who make me want to hate both shippings XD.
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Post by SmellYaLater on Oct 29, 2016 14:54:16 GMT
I used to really enjoy Pearlshipping, like a lot! It was like my OTP and I thought nothing could beat it. Then Serena and Amourshipping came around and I began to like that too, just not as much as Pearl. Of course, liking both ships meant I was in both Pearlshipping communities and Amourshipping communities. And that's when it all changed. (Just hear me out please and you can tell me how much you disagree with me after I say all that I need to say. You should probably not read all of it since it's so long, it's just a rant that I need to let out before I exploded. But go ahead and read all of it if you want. No one's stopping you.) I started to notice how bad the Pearlshipping community actually was, or at least was getting. It wasn't that bad before, but when Amourshipping started gaining popularity, the Pearlshipping community really went downhill. I think Pearlshippers may have seen Amour as a big rival and so they started bashing and hating on not just the ship, but Serena as well. Many Pearlshippers say they hate Serena's character when I'm almost certain that if it wasn't for her crush on Ash and the popularity of Amour, Pearlshippers would really like Serena. The big problem here is that I always see Pearlshippers complaining about how Amourshippers are crazy little brats who are compeletely insane, desperate, annoying, etc. Though I don't see that as much in the Amour community as much as I see it in the Pearl community. Let's face the facts here, it truly seems like you are the ones who are desperate here, creating a site with a whole section dedicated to Pearl vs any other Ash shipping. You don't see any other community doing that now do you? (Not that I know of anyways. Feel free to inform me and link me to it if there is one though) Not trying to sound rude or anything, but Pearlshippers are the last ones who should call any Amourshippers desperate. "Fanbrats" aren't born, they are created (If that makes any sense at all). This goes for all ships. Pearlshippers complain about Amourshippers being annoying and all "in your face" with Serena when, if it wasn't for Pearlshippers and Pokeshippers bashing on Amour as soon as it became popular, then maybe you wouldn't have to deal with them. But now, you created your own problem and annoyance, so now you have to deal with it. Okay, sure, maybe some people are naturally bratty when it comes to their favorite ships, but maybe if you didn't crap on it all of the time, the problem wouldn't be as bad as it is now. Anyways, not all Amourshippers are bad, in fact, I've hardly met any bad ones (Not saying that there wasn't any because there definitely was). And trust me Pearlshippers, you have just as many "fanbrats," if not more, than Amourshipping. However, your fanbrats are different. Which brings me into my next problem. So many Pearlshippers act like they are so kind and respect the other ships, but that is not the case at all. While Amourshippers, Pokeshippers, and even genwunners take the heat of being called the most cancerous communities in all of Pokémon, no one really pays attention to just how cancerous the Pearlshipping community is. In your section of "Amourshipping vs. Pearlshipping" you Pearlshippers say you are "discussing" this topic, when more than half of you are just straight up bashing Amourshipping. I've seen literally every other ship have calm discussions about what ship they think is better and not having to bash on another ship to make their's seem better, but in the "Amour vs Pearl" section, it seems that a lot of you can't make Pearlshipping look good without bringing down Amourshipping. What's that about? If you truly believe your ship is great, there should be no need to do this, but I guess even you guys are starting to see that Ash and Dawn are nothing more than best friends (Just messing with you guys. Kinda). Their closeness is truly amazing and makes for a great friendship. Sorry if I just made a few of you mad. But in all honesty, my brother and I act the same way as these two, maybe even closer than Ash and Dawn. Maybe that's why it's kind of awkward for me when I see people hardcore shipping these sometimes. My last problem with the Pearlshipping community is probably the one that bugs me the most. The Pearlshipping community is flat out IGNORANT when it comes to Serena. Most Pearlshippers straight up hate Serena, and like I said before, if it wasn't for her popularity, and her being the biggest threat to Pearl, I know for a fact that the majority of Pearlshippers would like her, even though most Pearlshippers will argue to the death that that's not the reason why they don't like Serena (which would be complete bull crap). Then Pearlshippers have the NERVE to say that Serena doesn't have as much character development as Dawn?! You've got to be kidding. Like I said, flat out ignorance at its best. If you want an explanation on why Serena's character development even surpassed that of Dawn's, you can go here: blackotakuz.deviantart.com/journal/Why-Serena-is-my-favorite-character-from-Pokémon-552296442You can also check that link to discover why Serena is not a stalker. Which again, that's laughable that so many Pearlshippers think that. It's not logical. For example, when a student leaves, let's say a book, on the table next to mine, I'll either pick it up and follow them until I'm able to catch up to them in order to give it back, ask someone if they know where that person's next class is so I can bring it to them, or ask somebody else to bring it to them if I don't have time to do it myself. What's the problem with that? I mean, it is their's right? They probably want it back, even though they don't realize they don't have it at the moment. So it would be the right thing to do for me to bring it back to them, correct? Does that make me a stalker. No it does not. Anyways, Serena didn't only leave to see Ash, she also left to get away from Rhyhorn Racing. Maybe it's different for me because I know the feeling of having someone force you to do something you don't like and then trying to make up literally any excuse to get away from them. Also, why do some Pearlshippers think that Serena would be jealous of the close relationship between Ash and Dawn. The only times Serena ever got jealous was when that teacher sounded like she was hitting on Ash and when Miette asked if Ash had someone to "take care of him." I don't know about you Pearlshippers, but it's pretty normal to get jealous when someone appears to be hitting on someone that you like. I'll admit, I would be a little jealous too. But the point is, Serena really isn't the overly jealous type. So it wouldn't make any sense for her character to get jealous over Ash having a platonic relationship with Dawn. Their practically like brother and sister, no need for Serena to be jealous. Anyways, if Ash were to ever pick someone else, Serena might be a bit sad and jealous at first, but I think she would ultimately be happy for Ash because she would want him to be happy. In all honesty, Dawn and Serena would definitely be really close friends. So Serena going to Hoenn could mean some PlatinumAmourshipping XD. Like Amourshipping who? Pearlshipping what? Just kidding. But I do believe that they would be THE DYNAMIC DUO OF THE CENTURY XD. Okay, maybe not to that extreme, but you do get what I'm trying to say. Some of you Pearlshippers make absolutely no sense. You'll say the Amourshipping bulbapedia page is full of crap, but then turn around and say that the one for Pearlshipping is spot on. You'll say that Serena is too girly and that's why Dawn is better, so does that mean you think that every girl like Dawn in real life is automatically better than every girl like Serena in real life? Logic right? You'll say Serena took far too long deciding on her dream when that's actually more relatable than basically knowing what you want to do right away like Dawn. I know people who are seniors in high school, people who are already in college that don't even know what they want to do with their lives yet. Some of you said that Amourshipping was not going to go anywhere and that the writers were going to end Amour just like they ended every other Ash ship, but when Serena finally kisses Ash, you say it doesn't mean anything because Ash didn't reciprocate. We saw their feet for crying out loud. We don't know what he did, all we know is that Serena kissed him. I think this will kind of explain the whole kiss thing though: www.tumblr.com/search/ash%20kiss(The one titled "Watched the last episode with subs". Remember to proceed to this page with caution when clicking on the link my dear Pearlshippers, don't want you to throw up from all the Amourshipping XD) Speaking of the kiss, you can't ignore how much power Amourshipping has. That would be very ignorant for anyone to ignore the power of Amour. I'm not saying it's canon, I'm definitely not saying that, and I'm also not saying that it's better than every other Ash ship. Amour itself brought so many people back to the Pokemkon franchise and then they stayed for the awesomeness that was XY&Z. Next, just because you don't like Serena or Amour does not mean you have to say that XY&Z is completely overrated and that DP is better. Frankly, you could say the same thing about DP. While it was airing, DP was just as overrated as XY&Z is now. And when S&M gets going, the hype for XY&Z will settle down. And maybe then you can stop giving some bullcrap excuse in why DP is so much better than XY&Z. Also, many Pearlshippers say that Serena is getting shoved down our throats, but how can we get her down, when at the same time, Pearlshippers are trying to shove Dawn down our throats. I can't eat two ten year old girls at the same time. Give me a breather. I'm so sorry for this long rant and I know that none of you will read that entire thing, but I wouldn't either XD. I just had to get this off of my chest. It was building up for so long and it needed to be said. No one was saying anything about how out of line many Pearlshippers are starting to get, so I decided to be the one to say something (Don't get me wrong, all these shipping communities have their "out of hand" members, but I don't want to see my favorite two ships go down THAT road. I'm ranting at Pearlshippers because I feel like they are closer to Pokeshipping rock bottom than Amourshipping is). Since I know you didn't read all of it, I at least hope you read a little bit of it and understand what I'm trying to say. Sure, all communities have their cancer members and their chill members, but I felt like this one was starting to lean more towards the cancer side. I don't want to see this community becoming as bad as Pokeshippers, but if Pearlshippers keep going at this rate, you might just get there. I'm not trying to bash Pearlshipping, definitely not. I couldn't because it still holds a place in my heart, just a smaller space than it did before. If you guys keep going at this rate, with all this hating and negativity, you're going to push a lot of your fans right into the welcoming arms of Amourshipping, just like you did to me. Hope you understand. I don't know, maybe learn to like Amourshipping, because we all know it's not going anywhere anytime soon. And if you see an Amourshipping fanbrat, feel free to tell them that they have no right to bash someone else's ship because Amour isn't canon yet . (I like how I said I had one last problem with Pearlshipping/Pearlshippers and then went on for like another five million words XD.) You do bring up some good points. People treat shippings like its some football rivalry when infact it isnt has you can support multiple ships and can easily get along with others while having your own opinions on something. My opinion is that i just do not like Serena at all, whatsoever. I dont like her personality, her *character development* and that fact that to me she is pretty much fanservice; but that's just how i think of her and you probably disagree with this and that is completely fine! You can't force anyone to like Serena and neither can we force people to like Dawn. People hate Dawn and has long as they have reasons to back it all up, i can accept their opinion and move on. There are at times where i do get slightly carried away when talking about her in a negative way but again, its all opinion, not fact! We are only having a little bit of "banta". Now when it gets to a point when you are hating and generalizing the shippers them selves, that's when people can legitimately get upset. Also bulbapedia to me is crap in general. Other than listing moves and Pokémon, it knows bugger all about shippings. It doesn't know whats shippy and what isn't. People have their own views on what is cute and what isnt. And like the others have said, every community has bad people and theres nothing we can do about it other than ignoring them. Eeverything else has already been covered by the others (which i agree with) so i can stop. By the way you are allowed to think that it "is better than any other ship". You wouldnt be a huge amourshipper if you didnt think amour was your favorite xD.
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