Post by LuigiKartDS on Dec 22, 2017 7:31:09 GMT
“Oh boy here we go.” - JonTron
For those who saw the “Really Bulbapedia?” thread I created awhile back, you’ll notice it has some mixed comments. One such comment was this:
“Your kidding me right? AmourShippers are so sensitive? You have the guts to say that AmourShippers are sensitive when literally this entire forum is PearlShipping hate toward Amour
Can't keep up? Toxic? Wow, head over to the Amour forum or even Serebii. None of them spew as much hate as you lot do in this forum.
If you want to judge a community by a couple of people, you guys aren't exactly being the best example of what's great in Pearl.
BS like this pushed me away from Pearl.
Are you simply just saying that because Amour has more Ash and Serena hints then Pearlshipping? Take a good long look at Amour's page.
My advice? Instead of solely bashing other ships, focus on your own.
God...”
Just in case the one who typed this does not want their name exposed, I won’t list it here; you will find it on the aformentioned thread.
No I will not be riffing his comments. I will look at them and see where I went wrong. Because I admit, I WAS on a little, overreactive tangent.
First, to answer his question regarding the hints.
I didn’t type that on the topic of ALL hints. It was mainly directed towards some of the vague ones, because SOME, not all, Amourshippers can be... “toxic.” And as I’ve said, I don’t hate Serena. I actually quite like her. She has a cute design and fun personality. With a confirmed crush on Ash, she is more fleshed out than the others (for the immature Pearl fans acting like “why u defend them”, you’ll see later).
When I typed that thread, I wasn’t referring to ALL Amourshippers. Just some. Because, as IceArceus had replied, “if you make a comment that doesn't remotely praise Serena, you get a lot of backlash.” And I notice this in some videos. One such comment is in this video:
As with the first quote, not going to say the name of the commenter. Just the comment:
“Serena haters can stfu. Serena is meant to be with Ash.”
Yeah yeah, lots of quotes in this one, bear with me. Back to the topic at hand, it’s people like this one that gets me. Though, to be fair, it was the only one I saw (I only saw one video because it’s nearly 1 AM and I’m tired). These kinds of Amourshippers ignore what others think in favor of their own hopes that the ship sails in the morning (I wonder what’s for dinner). “Meant to be with” is somewhat a strong sentence for a show aimed at a SLIGHTLY younger audience in mind (censored kiss scene, barely any hints in previous regions).
With shipping, there WILL be wars. On each side, there are two groups. One group wants to just make peace; the Pearlshipping TV YouTube channel congratulated Amourshippers for that “Big Damn Kiss” scene, appropriately named by TV Tropes. The other group, bashes the other side, believing them superior. Some Pearlshippers tried to ruin the Amourshippers’ party by making theories and speculating the situation (Serena kisses Ash’s cheek, there was no kiss, etc).
Pearlshippers have that group as well. I say “Pearlshippers” and not “we” because, well, after seeing some of the negative backlash among sides, as well as some negativity regarding [~~~~]’s comment, I don’t know if I want to support Pearl side anymore. [~~~~] is simply supporting what he believes, and that’s great. And the other comment he posted is true; in that backlash moment, there was only ONE response that was not attacking him. And that, of course, was IceArceus. No other comment was as well written as IceArceus’; the rest had no evidence regarding them, which, in turn, makes Pearlshipping no better than Amourshipping. I feel like one of the people in the negative group, which I don’t want to be.
In short (because I want to sleep), [~~~~], you showed me that BOTH sides have their good people and bad people. You’re a good guy in the Amour community, as you’ve defended your side against some backlash from the bad side of the Pearl group, even with some (somewhat justified) “you’re evidence is laughable” comments. Hopefully, I cleared some stuff up regarding my feelings regarding Amour, and apologize if it seemed like bashing. I’ll still keep track on Pearl, but will also stay updated on some other ships, because come on. Unless you’re a REALLY butthurt Pearl fan, diving into the shoes of another side can’t hurt. See their side of the story and understand how they feel. In the end, it’s an anime, and we can only take things as they come.
For those who saw the “Really Bulbapedia?” thread I created awhile back, you’ll notice it has some mixed comments. One such comment was this:
“Your kidding me right? AmourShippers are so sensitive? You have the guts to say that AmourShippers are sensitive when literally this entire forum is PearlShipping hate toward Amour
Can't keep up? Toxic? Wow, head over to the Amour forum or even Serebii. None of them spew as much hate as you lot do in this forum.
If you want to judge a community by a couple of people, you guys aren't exactly being the best example of what's great in Pearl.
BS like this pushed me away from Pearl.
Are you simply just saying that because Amour has more Ash and Serena hints then Pearlshipping? Take a good long look at Amour's page.
My advice? Instead of solely bashing other ships, focus on your own.
God...”
Just in case the one who typed this does not want their name exposed, I won’t list it here; you will find it on the aformentioned thread.
No I will not be riffing his comments. I will look at them and see where I went wrong. Because I admit, I WAS on a little, overreactive tangent.
First, to answer his question regarding the hints.
I didn’t type that on the topic of ALL hints. It was mainly directed towards some of the vague ones, because SOME, not all, Amourshippers can be... “toxic.” And as I’ve said, I don’t hate Serena. I actually quite like her. She has a cute design and fun personality. With a confirmed crush on Ash, she is more fleshed out than the others (for the immature Pearl fans acting like “why u defend them”, you’ll see later).
When I typed that thread, I wasn’t referring to ALL Amourshippers. Just some. Because, as IceArceus had replied, “if you make a comment that doesn't remotely praise Serena, you get a lot of backlash.” And I notice this in some videos. One such comment is in this video:
As with the first quote, not going to say the name of the commenter. Just the comment:
“Serena haters can stfu. Serena is meant to be with Ash.”
Yeah yeah, lots of quotes in this one, bear with me. Back to the topic at hand, it’s people like this one that gets me. Though, to be fair, it was the only one I saw (I only saw one video because it’s nearly 1 AM and I’m tired). These kinds of Amourshippers ignore what others think in favor of their own hopes that the ship sails in the morning (I wonder what’s for dinner). “Meant to be with” is somewhat a strong sentence for a show aimed at a SLIGHTLY younger audience in mind (censored kiss scene, barely any hints in previous regions).
With shipping, there WILL be wars. On each side, there are two groups. One group wants to just make peace; the Pearlshipping TV YouTube channel congratulated Amourshippers for that “Big Damn Kiss” scene, appropriately named by TV Tropes. The other group, bashes the other side, believing them superior. Some Pearlshippers tried to ruin the Amourshippers’ party by making theories and speculating the situation (Serena kisses Ash’s cheek, there was no kiss, etc).
Pearlshippers have that group as well. I say “Pearlshippers” and not “we” because, well, after seeing some of the negative backlash among sides, as well as some negativity regarding [~~~~]’s comment, I don’t know if I want to support Pearl side anymore. [~~~~] is simply supporting what he believes, and that’s great. And the other comment he posted is true; in that backlash moment, there was only ONE response that was not attacking him. And that, of course, was IceArceus. No other comment was as well written as IceArceus’; the rest had no evidence regarding them, which, in turn, makes Pearlshipping no better than Amourshipping. I feel like one of the people in the negative group, which I don’t want to be.
In short (because I want to sleep), [~~~~], you showed me that BOTH sides have their good people and bad people. You’re a good guy in the Amour community, as you’ve defended your side against some backlash from the bad side of the Pearl group, even with some (somewhat justified) “you’re evidence is laughable” comments. Hopefully, I cleared some stuff up regarding my feelings regarding Amour, and apologize if it seemed like bashing. I’ll still keep track on Pearl, but will also stay updated on some other ships, because come on. Unless you’re a REALLY butthurt Pearl fan, diving into the shoes of another side can’t hurt. See their side of the story and understand how they feel. In the end, it’s an anime, and we can only take things as they come.
need a break from that. I cannot express how much more I appreciate fan-translations of anything now