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Post by NovaStorm on Dec 1, 2014 18:02:38 GMT
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DieForOurShip/PokémonGuess what? Read about us on tvtropes. Funny thing is, the words hating, on, and Serena all link to Project Pearl stuff. So when they say Pearlshippers, they mean mainly Project Pearlshipping. The attacks show that they were mad (butthurt) about our opinions. The third paragraph was likely one of them letting out their anger. "Doesn't have a goal" was known to be changed anyway in the future. "Shallow character = opinions" shows that the person must have been defensive about his/her opinion, but so what? Everyone has their own opinion. Our own OTP has been subject to fanservice? We don't ignore that. No, we are immersed in what DP does give us with the somewhat 'fanservicy' covers and merchandise. But guess what? It's about the degree of fanservice. There is no doubt that the 6th generation has more fanservice than the 4th. Saying that DP is just as subject is an unequal comparison. I could go on with that topic alone, but that would be another thread.
But now, we may be seen as haters. We're kind of like Pokeshippers back in DP, but without the "anti" music videos. The Project Pearlshippers have a reputation now, and it may or not be a good one. Some on Serebii have called us (basically me) hyperanalyzers. Some there want us to shut up. No matter. We can't get everyone to like us, and in the same way not everyone is going to bandwagon and be forced to like one thing. If our rep is good or bad, whatever. Our reputation shouldn't matter too much. What matters is that Pearlshipping is still supported, even it's by a small group of people.
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Post by icypiplup on Dec 1, 2014 22:22:53 GMT
I wonder if they ever heard "dont judge a book by it's cover",they basically judged us by the serena bashing thread. I dont care if we're seen as haters because judging us by our hatred for serena is pathetic.It's like seeing pokeshippers by their hatred towards dawn and their anti pearlshipping amvs. Some shippers act like they never seen an anti (insert ship here) whatever. Also not all pearlshippers are like that same with pokeshippers.
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Post by IvanAipom93 on Dec 9, 2014 18:16:37 GMT
My opinion anyway is not to bash on other characters, in any way, and in this case it is including Serena. It's not because of the TV Tropes affair - I mean, it's a sub topic of a sub topic of a sub topic... that's because we are correctly known as pacific shippers. A future shipping, even if important like Amour, is not something that should make us worry. We are loyal to our shipping, and the ones who are not PearlShippers anymore were simply not true PearlShippers. Being compared to PokéShippers is something I could not ever stand... those are very rude people that love to bash on other's places. We are not that kind of shippers because we truly believe in the Pearl Spirit, based on harmony. I think that is important, I have always loved the Pearl shipping AND the Pearl fandom, because it is one of the BEST ever. Generally every fandom is annoying and unstandable. But we are not.
TL;DR: I think we should not care too much about future ships. Yep, watching, judging something, and stuff. But not giving it more importance than OUR shipping. I try not to bash anything in any fandom, and I'm sure we can do better in this. Generally being a bit
(This doesn't mean giving "win" to Amour or loving it, obviously. Don't misunderstand me. It's just... not our business to care about it THAT much. It creates problem and our only main thought must be our beloved PearlShipping!)
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Post by NovaStorm on Dec 9, 2014 18:23:15 GMT
That's a good point IvanAipom93. Supporting our ship is the most important. While it doesn't mean we aren't allowed to have our own opinion, our main focus should focus should be Ash and Dawn as supporters.
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Post by IvanAipom93 on Dec 9, 2014 18:31:44 GMT
Exactly what I meant NovaStorm! You got the point. We obviously have to have an opinion about future shippings! As true Pokémon fans, we want to watch and think with our own heads. But I guess creating too many discussions around our opinions about Amour (or any other, it's no difference) would switch our (and others') attention from Pearl to Amour (or any other). This would not be good because the duty of keeping PearlShipping alive and strong it's only in our hands! So, we'll give our own analysis and opinions, but Amour should NOT become a primary issue for us.
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Post by knightofbalance on Apr 22, 2015 23:03:46 GMT
I just read the analysis for myself while looking at an article about an abridged series and I have to say, these people don't know you guys. I know because I once saw project pearlshipping as biased toward amour. But, soon after I joined you, I saw that was just a tiny, misunderstood part of this group of wackjobs.
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Post by IceArceus on Apr 23, 2015 10:25:28 GMT
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DieForOurShip/PokémonGuess what? Read about us on tvtropes. Funny thing is, the words hating, on, and Serena all link to Project Pearl stuff. So when they say Pearlshippers, they mean mainly Project Pearlshipping. The attacks show that they were mad (butthurt) about our opinions. The third paragraph was likely one of them letting out their anger. "Doesn't have a goal" was known to be changed anyway in the future. "Shallow character = opinions" shows that the person must have been defensive about his/her opinion, but so what? Everyone has their own opinion. Our own OTP has been subject to fanservice? We don't ignore that. No, we are immersed in what DP does give us with the somewhat 'fanservicy' covers and merchandise. But guess what? It's about the degree of fanservice. There is no doubt that the 6th generation has more fanservice than the 4th. Saying that DP is just as subject is an unequal comparison. I could go on with that topic alone, but that would be another thread.
But now, we may be seen as haters. We're kind of like Pokeshippers back in DP, but without the "anti" music videos. The Project Pearlshippers have a reputation now, and it may or not be a good one. Some on Serebii have called us (basically me) hyperanalyzers. Some there want us to shut up. No matter. We can't get everyone to like us, and in the same way not everyone is going to bandwagon and be forced to like one thing. If our rep is good or bad, whatever. Our reputation shouldn't matter too much. What matters is that Pearlshipping is still supported, even it's by a small group of people. I'm not really fazed by this, surprisingly, but what does annoy me is the comment on hyperanalysis. I analyse because I like bringing the skills I've learnt from academia into service for the ship I believe in. I don't do it because I need to analyse Pearlshipping for us to find tiny tendrils of hope to hold onto. There's a novelty about using mundane looking skills from school and incorporating this into Pearlshipping that makes it, would anyone believe it- fun. If my theory turns out able to ground onto a fact that has been issued to us from the anime- great- I'll publish it. There's a purpose too. I remember when I first published my high Touch analysis. So many people told me they were inspired- and that's the thing about being online. Everyone's word, when they start, holds equal weight. If, say, I was an aristocrat, that wouldn't matter at all. I'm judged by what I say, not what I am. That's why I always encourage analysis to be done where it can be done. It doesn't matter that we're choosing to use our skills for Pearlshipping, a ship that is not the most likely to be canon. We're using them for something we truly believe in. This wouldn't work as well in the real word, but this is online. We're allowed to be idealistic. Virtual stuff is as close to idealism as you get in this world. We've criticised shippers in the past, which is wrong, but criticising a ship isn't. It seens that Project Pearlshipping has grown up, while those who maintain their viewpoint on us haven't. Having an opinion and voicing it in a way that does not disrupt others is not wrong. In fact, it is the starting point for the educated to defend the rights of themselves and others in the real world, but that is beside my point. What we've done is given the shipping community something fresh, unseen, and at times controverisal, but when I see people inspired enough to use their skills for Pearlshipping it encourages me no end. Using skills like analysis, writing, drawing, digital manipulation for something you believe in is the essence of purity of motive in this world, and I don't think anyone can criticise that.
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Post by NovaStorm on Apr 23, 2015 22:25:49 GMT
I agree IceArceus. We ship because of idealism, not necessarily canonicity. No matter how canon another ship may be, it may not be ideal in our minds and in life. I gotta say, I too was inspired after reading the High Touch analysis, and that was back in Feb 2014. It was the analyses on DataCore that encouraged me about SatoHika and then Project Pearlshipping. they can call us hyperanalysers, but Project Pearlshipping was probably the best SatoHika response ever to SatoSere. A channel, website, and forum kept Pearl alive for the few SatoHika fans that still exist.
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Post by Unarmed Civilian/pokemongeof on Jun 30, 2015 0:43:31 GMT
To be honest, The Pearl fandom is the best because we believe in idealism of our ship, while having proof behind it. Our fandom is so powerful despite that the ship doesn't exist (maybe not yet), and reading the fanfiction, watching the videos, and seeing the fanart is enough to drive me.
All of your guys opinions are amazing and sum up what I say.
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Post by shiny.pikachu on Jul 12, 2015 21:08:16 GMT
That's what I like about the pearl fandom, we're undaunted when it comes to critics and other ship hate
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