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Post by SakuraBlossom on Apr 16, 2015 21:38:21 GMT
Ash and Dawn having the same father is wrong in so many ways. IF they were related, they would definitely have a close bond. Perhaps even stronger than they do now, but in a bro-sis way. However, there is a DIFFERENCE between a brother/sister relationship and a best friends relationship. Ash and Dawn's bond in the anime is the latter.
P.S When Nova mentioned the treating each other as family I couldn't help but think of Mikasa and Eren from Attack on Titan. I don't really ship EreMika though.
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Post by PlatinumSun on Apr 16, 2015 22:25:09 GMT
What is the difference between a brother/sister relationship and a best friends relationship?
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Post by icypiplup on Apr 17, 2015 1:14:10 GMT
Other than being related/unrelated, I don't think there is a difference..
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Post by SakuraBlossom on Apr 18, 2015 2:25:06 GMT
What is the difference between a brother/sister relationship and a best friends relationship? Other than being related/unrelated, I don't think there is a difference.. There is a difference other then being related or not. That's trivial to what I meant. Everyone views things differently, and I have the tendency to look deeper into concepts. I take the whole brother-sister relationship reasoning quite seriously when it comes to ships because that reason has been used to negate the possibility of more than one of my favorite pairings from becoming canon. Are you trying to say that every best friends turned into lovers had a bro-sis relationship? I am specifically referring to a best friends relationship between a male and a female. Not one of the same gender although it could apply to that as well. Every pair of siblings have a different relationship. Some may be close and have a good relationship. Others may be rather distant and argue most of the time. It's different with best friends. Best friends are close to one another, they can trust each other, and they always make up even if an argument occurs. That's the general idea of best friends. That's the reason why they consider each other best friends and not just friends. You can't just assume that a bro-sis relationship is the same exact thing as being best friends. Typically in anime it is acknowledged by the characters when two characters are friends and act like brother and sister. Common lines would be "No, he's like a brother to me!" or "She's like an older sister". That's also another way of saying that they are close, but they could never be in a romantic relationship. When that doesn't occur, their relationship is left open to debate. A lot of fans tend to believe Ash and Dawn act like bro-sis because of the arguments that occur between them. I personally view it as "they fight like an old married couple". There are also hints towards a romantic relationship between Ash and Dawn. When a two characters have a bro-sis relationship, romantic implications are not there. My whole rant probably sounds a little confusing, but my main point is the two relationships are not the same because a bro-sis relationship varies, and the boy and girl have to acknowledge each other as siblings to be officially called a bro-sis relationship. Ash and Dawn act like best friends and not bro-sis because of their close bond and romantic implications. If either of them actually referred to each other as siblings, the case would be different. This is why I really dislike the bro-sis argument when it comes to shipping debates.
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Post by mew151 on Apr 18, 2015 17:13:05 GMT
I would like your post, Saku, but the thumb button keep sending me to the top of the page.
Wha.. the... NOW it works!?
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Post by NovaStorm on Apr 20, 2015 6:22:25 GMT
the boy and girl have to acknowledge each other as siblings to be officially called a bro-sis relationship. Ash and Dawn act like best friends and not bro-sis because of their close bond and romantic implications. I think people say Ash and Dawn are bro-sis because they don't see romantic implications. They deem Ash and Dawn extremely close, but without romance, they cannot be a romantic couple. Instead, Ash and Dawn are compared to a bro and sis because it fits both the extremely close and non-romantic categories. :/ The way I see it, the mutually and exclusively sung lyrics "As long as we are together" is the ultimate implication. Not because it is romantic; siblings can say those words as well. It's because Ash and Dawn (who aren't siblings) are the only ones to say this, no one else. No other female can say that they are that close to Ash.
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Post by shpee on Apr 20, 2015 18:50:10 GMT
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Post by SakuraBlossom on Apr 21, 2015 3:39:52 GMT
I think people say Ash and Dawn are bro-sis because they don't see romantic implications. They deem Ash and Dawn extremely close, but without romance, they cannot be a romantic couple. Instead, Ash and Dawn are compared to a bro and sis because it fits both the extremely close and non-romantic categories. :/ My main point was that there is a difference between a bro-sis relationship and one of best friends. I wouldn't say there is no romance at all for Pearlshipping. The romance in Ash and Dawn's relationship is not "in your face" like Serena's crush on Ash. It takes analyzing and looking deeper into their relationship to pick out these things. Obviously people who prefer another ship would not take the time to look deeper into it. They would judge the relationship based on what they see. Like I've mentioned before, Ash and Dawn have never actually referred to each other as a sibling. Their chances of developing into a romantic relationship is not hopeless. Anyway, this is slowly going off topic. We'll end the matter here. shpee This has nothing to do with what we were talking about.
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Post by IceArceus on Apr 21, 2015 10:34:41 GMT
I agree with SakuraBlossom. If Ash and Dawn were confirmed to have a bro sis relationship, a lot of things, namely high touch lyrics, would make it seem borderline incestuous. shpee Heresy is belief contrary to an orthodox religious doctrine. So... I don't see the relevance here.
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Post by knightofbalance on Apr 22, 2015 21:08:27 GMT
Everyone, shpee is a completely irrelevant idiot that simply posts here to get a rise out of people. I'd ignore him or hit him with a club. Either way is fine with me.
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