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Post by IceArceus on May 12, 2017 20:22:16 GMT
There seems to be a clear notion these days in the Pokémon fandom that it's not ok to express dislike for any ship. We're allowed to express dislike for a Pokémon human character or even Pokémon themselves, like "bulbasaur sucks for Pokémon red mate its stats are crap". Why should that be any different for ships?
When you say you dislike a ship is it not possible to dislike a ship as you would a character rather than have people accuse you of hating them personally?
#provingapointtosomeoneaboutpostingtoincreaseactivitycauseit'sbasiclogic
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Post by pearlshiper on May 12, 2017 20:57:53 GMT
I agree and disagree with you on this, I understand how if you were to dislike a ship you would be disliking the characters not the ship particularly, but I "dislike Amourshipping". This isn't because of the characters, I haven't really seen any of xy or xyz. The reason I dislike it is because of the community if have seen, most of them just seem blatantly arrogant with them saying things like "Amourshipping is canon because Serena likes Ash" which I just find anoying, So yeah I have to say I "dislike amourshipping" for reasons that aren't the characters.
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Post by IceArceus on May 12, 2017 21:00:31 GMT
pearlshiper Ah, when I say I dislike the ship I do mean I dislike the relationship between the two characters ( I may or may not dislike the two characters separately but that's besides today's point) What I mean is no one cares if I say I hate a Pokémon character, or even a Pokémon move like idk "vine whip" but why should there be so much backlash when I say I dislike the relationship of two characters? People make videos on "top 10 worst Pokémon characters" and like no one cares but the instant you say you dislike a ship it gets mental. That's just clarification, but yeah I get what you mean about the community.
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Post by pearlshiper on May 12, 2017 21:04:31 GMT
IceArceus Sorry I understand what you mean now
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Post by PlatinumSun on May 12, 2017 21:08:03 GMT
Well those have different sub communities of Pokémon. Pokémon anime is more likely to have the younger audience than the games or manga. And within the anime community is the shipping community.
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Post by carsfan on May 12, 2017 21:38:44 GMT
And yes this show needs a remake the bring back Dawn and replace Serena from loving reactions
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Post by PlatinumSun on May 12, 2017 21:40:44 GMT
More like a remake that shows actual respect towards their characters
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Post by Nafsika on May 12, 2017 22:54:33 GMT
The problem is that when you dislike a shipping you base this feeling to the way you feel about one or both of the characters!!!! The right thing would be to watch all the characters with the same way and even if you don't like a shipping try to see the good things in that or if you disagree so much with that don't take a fight with someone who likes it!!! Everybody has the right to express himself and there's always a place where can do it without hurt or make angry someone who disagree!!!!
Unfortunately is in human nature to search for things which dislike them and not for the good ones!!! And in my opinion all this hate is a waste of time and feeling!!!!
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Post by IceArceus on May 13, 2017 22:06:42 GMT
...Then surely a person also has the right to say they dislike something? If I say I dislike something rather than for example, go on someone else's site and write that "I dislike ---" all over it then that's just freedom of speech right?
If people can't take other people disagreeing with them they're going to find it very hard to function in society. Ideally of course, everyone would agree to like everything and all would be well, but unfortunately that's not the case, and there are just some things in this world I'd rather not like. There's a bit of a difference between rational dislike and hate, I think.
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Post by Nafsika on May 13, 2017 23:15:42 GMT
Kinda!!! If you go with good will and not with intention to prove that your belief is the right one then yes!! But of what I have seen most people try to provoke and not tp state their opinions!!! It's very thin the line between express myself and try to make someone to think the wrong of his thought because I can't accept that not all people share my belief!!!! So everything depened of the way I'll say something!!! I know what you're going to say that even when you are kind some people react badly to a different opinion, then you should leave and don't take a fight!!! Not all people can't understand that we watch all this anime for fun and entertainment and there's no reason to fight about fictional characters!!!
Yes sociaty is hard and a lot of people have hard time to live with that, including myself, but the problem with our community, I'll speak only for the poke community because I haven't watch or take part in another anime's community, is that we can't saparate the hate from dislike!!! How many people you know that droped Pokémon because they didn't like BW and XY/Z cause of Iris and Serena, I have heard a lot of people to bash them without have watched all the series!!! They dislike 1) Ash because is stupid and never aged 2) Misty because is tomboy and agressive 3) Dawn cause of her short dress and that makes her a slut 4) Iris cause of her cautch phrase, which make her annoying 5) Serena because her face flash when Ash spoke to her and haven't done anything 6) Clemmont is also stupid and not funny and now they start bashing Sophocles, who's Clemmont 2 and is completely useless!!! So am asking you where exacly went the pure love for the show??? If you use stupid excuses to bash a fictional character then that's not just dislike is something even more and I'm sorry but I'm not going to take that road!!! I love Pokémon of what it is, even though I think that the writers weren't fair with all the characters like Misty and Serena, they didn't work their characters as much as they should be, they could have made them do even more things and have bigger development!!! Then if I'm going to be mad and dislike something that would be poke writers' behavior and not the characters, because in my eyes is their faults, they could have done things differently and all be happy!!!
I know that pearlshippers have a lot of problems with amourshippers, but it's time to bury the ax of rage and make peace with them as much as we can!!! We are in the same boat, if anyone goes down the rest will follow!!!
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