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Post by satohika on Sept 1, 2016 4:46:35 GMT
I'm just going to post the songs and lyrics here. Kenka nakanaori mata kenka
Iitai koto ippai aru kedo
Ichiban wa……
“Itekurete arigatou!”
Tabi wa michidzure yo wa nasake
Wakatta you na kao shiteru kedo
Hontou wa……
“Itekurete ureshii!”
Naisu paatonaa!
Naisu raibaru!
Oshite ageru yo
Hippatte ageru
Miageru taiyou nandaka mabushikute
Umaku ittara hai tacchi!
Hekonjattemo motodoori!
Issho naraba
Akirameru no wa hayai ze
GO GO GO!
Nerai sadame baburu kousen!
Tayori naru Pocchama dakedo
Tokidoki wa……
Hazurechatte meccha pinchi!
Kiai komete juuman boruto!
Ore no jiman Pikachuu dakedo
kantan ni……
Kateru wake ja nai!
Naisu paatonaa!
Naisu raibaru!
Koe kakeatte
Foroo shiaeba
Omotta toori ni waza mo kimari dasu!
Umaku ittara hai tacchi!
Kyou no shouri wa wasurenai!
Issho naraba……
Donna pinchi mo nigeteku!
Ude wo nobashi hai tacchi!
Egao ippai kokorodzuyoi!
Issho naraba……
Tsuyoi aitemo uerukamu!
GO GO GO!
Kyou mo ashita mo asattemo
Tabi wa zutto tsudzuiteku kedo
Itsudatte……
Sugu soba ni sono egao!
Kita e minami e nishi higashi
Keshiki kurukuru kawaru kedo
Doko ni datte……
Itsumo sono egao!
Naisu paatonaa!
Naisu raibaru!
Mamotte kureru yo
Tasukete kureru
Hirogaru kouya ni michi ga massugu ni
Sora no shita de hai tacchi!
Kotoba yori mo wakari yasui!
Isshou naraba
Yume ni mukatte toberu ze!
Umaku ittara hai tacchi!
Hekonjattemo motodoori!
Isshou naraba
Akirameru no wa hayai ze!
GO GO GO!
Umaku itta ne hai tacchi!
Batoru aite to hando shekku
Issho naraba
Motto tooku ni ikeru ze!
GO GO GO!
GO GO GO! GO GO GO! | We fight, make up, and then fight again
There are lots of things I want to say to you
But foremost……
“Thanks for being here for me!”
Companions on this journey, compassion in the world
I pretend to understand those things, but
The truth is……
“I’m happy you’re here for me!”
You’re a nice partner!
You’re a nice rival!
I’ll push you forward
I’ll pull you back
The sun seems so dazzling when I look up at it
If it all goes well, let’s high five!
If we’re feeling down, we’ll come right back!
As long as we’re together
I won’t give up so easily!
GO GO GO!
Take aim with Bubblebeam!
I’ve come to rely on Piplup, but
Sometimes……
I’ll find myself in a mega pinch!
I let out a cry of “Thunderbolt!”
Pikachu is my pride and joy, but
to put it simply……
That doesn’t mean I’ll win!
You’re a nice partner!
You’re a nice rival!
We may argue
But as long as we follow each other
I think we’ll find a way to compromise
If it all goes well, let’s high five!
I won’t ever forget today’s victory!
As long as we’re together……
We’ll escape from any kind of pinch!
Extending our arms, let’s high five!
Smiling this much is so heartwarming!
As long as we’re together……
Even a strong tailwind will be welcoming!
GO GO GO!
Through today, tomorrow and the day after
This journey goes forever on, but
Always……
Your smile is with me!
To the north, to the south, east and west
The scenery goes on changing, but
No matter where I go……
Your smile is always there!
You’re a nice partner!
You’re a nice rival!
Protecting me
Saving me
Our road goes on through an ever expanding wasteland
Underneath the sky, let’s high five!
We can understand that more easily than words!
As long as we’re together
We can fly away, facing our dreams!
If it all goes well, let’s high five!
If we’re feeling down, we’ll come right back!
As long as we’re together
I won’t give up so easily!
GO GO GO!
It all went well, so let’s high five!
Shake hands with our opponent in battle
As long as we’re together……
We can go even further than before!
GO GO GO!
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| Massugu ni sesuji nobashite
DOORII PINKU no CHIIKU de smile
Kimi no tonari onnaji hohaba de aruite itai
Tokidoki kenka mo shite
Nakanaori wa zettai, yo ?
Irotoridori na kimi no kao wo shiritai kara
"Kawaii" dake no Candy Girl ja nai
HIIROO ga PINCHI no toki wa
Isamashiku tasuke ni tonde yuku wa
Oh, Oh, kimi no koto wo
Oh, Oh, mamotte agetai !
Tsuyoki, yowaki zenbu dakishimeru yo
Maru ○ marugoto
Oh, Oh, nee, miseru yo
Oh, Oh, arittake no Love
Kimi to, watashi issho ni ireta nara...
Nee, muteki deshou ?
Hey ! Maybe, everything is going better, baby
WANPIISU wa tobikiri Girly ♪
MAIPEESU wa kuzushi takunai
Demo kimi to nara futari nori de
Susumitai kara
Ii koto bakari no eiga ja tsumaranai
MERIHARI kishoutenketsu
Yosou ijou no HAPPIIENDO wo !
Oh, Oh, daijoubu da yo
Oh, Oh, kowagarazu ni
Yuuki, genki gyutto nigirishimete
Itsu・itsu demo
Oh, Oh, egaichaou
Oh, Oh, saidai kyuu no Love
Kimi to, watashi te wo tsunaide ireba
Nee, MIRAKURU deshou ?
Hey ! Show me, tell me what's your dreaming Come on, baby
Oh, Oh, kimi no koto wo
Oh, Oh, mamotte agetai !
Tsuyoki, yowaki zenbu dakishimeru yo
Maru ○ marugoto
Oh, Oh, nee, miseru yo
Oh, Oh, arittake no Love
Kimi to, watashi issho ni ireta nara...
Nee, muteki deshou ?
Hey ! Maybe, everything is going better, baby | I want to walk tall
With a smile on my dolly pink cheeks
Next to you, at the same pace as you
Every now and then we fight
But we're always guaranteed to make up again, aren't we?
It's because I want to learn to know every one of your colors
I'm not just a purely "cute" Candy Girl
When the hero is in trouble,
I'll courageously swoop in to help
Oh, Oh, I want to
Oh, Oh, Protect you!
I embrace both your strengths and weaknesses
In their entirety
Oh, Oh, Hey, show me
Oh, Oh, Every last bit of your love
If you and I were to be together...
Hey, we'd be unbeatable, right?
Hey! Maybe, everything is going better, baby
My summer dress is extremely girly
I don't want to stop doing things my own way
But if it's with you,
I'd like to ride tandem from here on
Movies where everything goes well all the time are boring
Some lively twists and turns
Make for happier endings than otherwise expected!
Oh, Oh, It'll all work out okay
Oh, Oh, There's nothing to be afraid of
I grip your courage and energy tightly
At absolutely all times
Oh, Oh, Let's envision
Oh, Oh, Ultimate love
When you and I hold hands
Hey, it's a miracle, right?
Hey! Show me, tell me what's your dreaming Come on, baby
Oh, Oh, I want to
Oh, Oh, Protect you!
I embrace both your strengths and weaknesses
In their entirety
Oh, Oh, Hey, show me
Oh, Oh, Every last bit of your love
If you and I were to be together...
Hey, we'd be unbeatable, right?
Hey! Maybe, everything is going better, baby |
The two songs seem to highlight key aspects of Pearlshipping and Amourshipping. While Candy Girl isn't in an opening or an ending, it's located on a different track on the Dori Dori single, it's notable as a song specifically about Amourshipping. Since Dori Dori isn't an Amourshipping song at all. High Touch speaks obviously of the bond between Ash and Dawn, but Candy Girl speaks about Serena's aspirations to establish a bond between her and Ash. Both of these songs share common themes such as fighting/arguing, togetherness, holding hands/high touches, traveling on a journey, etc. I'll analyze its specific themes later and compare them in the light between the two. |
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Post by mew151 on Sept 1, 2016 18:15:46 GMT
Uh, about the Candy Girl one... yeah. I think the many things the song describes happened once maybe during the span of XYZ? I've yet to fully catch up, so I'll see if I'll return for further analysis.
High Touch I agree, because this was established at least twice, and kept consistently following around DP, BEFORE High Touch became a song.
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Post by satohika on Sept 1, 2016 18:27:06 GMT
Uh, about the Candy Girl one... yeah. I think the many things the song describes happened once maybe during the span of XYZ? I've yet to fully catch up, so I'll see if I'll return for further analysis. High Touch I agree, because this was established at least twice, and kept consistently following around DP, BEFORE High Touch became a song. High Touch is in the present and past tenses but Candy Girl is in the future tense. She repeatedly said 'if' these things were to happen. Serena hasn't protected nor saved Ash yet. And the song describes her empathetic nature, how she wants to embrace his strengths and weaknesses, even though she doesn't know who Ash really is by saying she wants to know his colors. If Dawn were there, she'd be at his side instantly. Someone made a similar analysis of the song and they seem to interpret it as possible future events. Keep in mind, Serena is extremely passive and hesitant and expects miracles to come to her. So these are her wishes of establishing good chemistry with him, even though they haven't progressed beyond good friends. Serena came very close to revealing her feelings to Ash during the fight and didn't go further. Serena wanted to dance with Ash but hesitated before the dance ended. Even if similar events did happen in XYZ, they weren't regular occurrences like in High Touch. I dare say, Serena ruins Amourshipping itself with her passivity plenty of times despite her wishes. Edit: Serena speaks of what might/should happen 'if' she was together with Ash, Ash and Dawn talk about what does happen when they are together. Dawn and Ash have a bond that transcends physical presence. Serena wants a similar bond with Ash, but wants to physically be with him. Edit: If Dawn were to meet Serena and travel together with Ash, what would happen? Which will happen first, Dawn realizing that she loves Ash in a romantic sense or Serena developing the chemistry she wanted with Ash? |
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Post by IceArceus on Sept 2, 2016 11:11:36 GMT
They can't really convert this to a duet, right? The lyrics don't really work as a duet.
What I'm worried about is them using this as an anime song near the end of XY using Ash and Serena's VAs (not so much if it was just Serena's VA cause that's nothing new). Not too likely though right? And not really on the same par as high touch at the moment because of it.
The use of "daijoubu" in candy girl is a bit annoying though ngl.
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Post by satohika on Sept 2, 2016 13:37:24 GMT
They can't really convert this to a duet, right? The lyrics don't really work as a duet. What I'm worried about is them using this as an anime song near the end of XY using Ash and Serena's VAs (not so much if it was just Serena's VA cause that's nothing new). Not too likely though right? And not really on the same par as high touch at the moment because of it. The use of "daijoubu" in candy girl is a bit annoying though ngl. I doubt it, the lyrics won't work as a duet like High Touch. Serena's VA doesn't actually sing this song but Shoko Nakagawa sings all of Serena's character songs. She stated somewhere that Candy Girl is an amour song. There could ever only be six ending themes, and this won't be it. I also doubt the end of XYZ would focus only on Serena. If she stays, then Dawn has to make a return. On the flip side, if Dawn returns, Serena would likely remain. Maybe they never intended for Serena to replace Dawn. The reason why they gave her the haircut and outfit change was that her previous design looked too similar to Dawn's design. With the exception of Clemont and Bonnie, no two characters within a single generation series can have the same hair color or hair style. Similar reasons as to why Dawn's outfit didn't have a change and her Pokémon roster remained the same. Which I still suspect that Serena's base personality was created at the same time when Dawn's base personality was created, sometime during AG or early DP. When they planned DP, they initially had two personalities- Dawn and 'Serena' for main girls. They went with Dawn for DP because being the 'Female Ash' and all. Serena's personality wouldn't fit in the DP storyline because 'Dawn' would blush, drop spaghetti and do nothing to help Ash out much. Because Dawn's and Serena's personalities were opposites, they likely intended for them to be within the same series in the future. Amourshippers would disagree saying Ash is Serena's opposite, they're not wrong in a way. But Ash sees Dawn in a similar way as Serena sees Ash. Going into my theory again, Ash has both Dawn-like and Serena-like qualities. But Serena's true antithesis is Dawn when looking at the overall picture and in-depth picture. The SM series would imply something great, what happens when the Sun (Dawn) and the Moon (Serena) come together? It forms an eclipse, something great and unprecedented. They normally do not ever have two main girls in one series. |
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Post by IceArceus on Sept 2, 2016 14:39:20 GMT
Yeah, I meant if they made a Mayuki makiguchi version of this song like they did for Dori dori power, which would give amourshippers more of an excuse to say this song beats high touch because it would come from the character's VA IF they were to make a Serena version. I hope they'll just stick with the Shoko nakagawa version and leave the production of this song at that.
On the other hand the mysic itself is pretty good, I think. The lyrics aren't really my cup of tea though.
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Post by PlatinumSun on Sept 2, 2016 15:32:40 GMT
Two parts of the song really peak my interest. The first one is the tandem part of the song. It can interpreted as a foreshadow of Serena choosing to follow Ash than the dream she made to become Kalos Queen. The other part is the thing about movies. To talk about a happy endings after twists and turns, it could be possible that Serena might get her happy ending without being with Ash. That's I interpret it as. One thing I appreciate is when she says "show me every last bit of your love". Ash could simply show her his love for Pokémon and his friends and the world itself. IceArceus on the bright side, she says daijoubu not how Dawn and Ash would say. |
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Post by satohika on Sept 2, 2016 15:55:51 GMT
Yashio represents the easy way out. But staying with Ash is the harder route, even having to see Ash and Dawn together. There's a reason why they showed Grace overhearing Yashio talking about Serena. Knowing that Serena at the start of the series refused to listen to her mother. Serena might consider the easy way or the hard way, but likely having to end up choosing the hard way after Grace convinces her to leave Kalos. Again another parallel with Dawn. Dawn chose to stay in Sinnoh for her career even though she wanted to travel to Kanto with Ash. Serena is more guided by idealism and emotions compared to Dawn. Her real goal isn't to be Kalos Queen but rather 'Satoshi's bride'. Sounds bad but hey, it's Serena alright, with her head stuck in the clouds whenever Ash is on her mind. Again another possible foreshadowing of Serena meeting Dawn: Serena- Pochama are really friendly, right? Ash- I know a Pochama who can get carried away.... The thing is that Dawn and Serena have a character design that appeals to everyone, not just Pokémon fans. If you were to put them together with Misty, May and Iris, you can easily spot out the Pokegirls that look very much like Pokegirls. But Dawn without her hat and barrettes and Serena can blend in a non-Pokémon series. i.imgur.com/M9UeaUz.jpgHigh Touch represents Dawn's light of the sun, Candy Girl represents Serena's reflection of light of the moon. The fact is nobody in Kalos including Serena would help on improving chemistry between Ash and Serena, even if Serena has the support of Bonnie, Shauna and Millefeuille. Everybody in Sinnoh and Unova that has met both Ash and Dawn noticed their strong bonds. Lyra was there to push their relationship a bit but still they're dense. Kenny and Conway got jealous of Ash and his relation to Dawn. Serena dodged all of Tierno's advances. The only person who can push Serena to her emotional limits is none other than Dawn. The fact that Dawn has established such a strong bond with Ash will no doubt inspire Serena to do the same. And obviously Dawn would feel uneasy about Serena's crush on Ash. Their hearts are both set on Ash. Just because they would be love rivals doesn't mean they couldn't be close friends. I honestly think for SM they will bait everyone with even more ship teases involving Ash, in which Pearlshipping and Amourshipping seem to fit the bill. Having either of them alone just wouldn't attract as many viewers, because having just one would imply canonization. The staff and VAs for XY dodged the question of Serena and Amourshipping in the next series, saying they might lose their jobs. We get a yearly reference to Dawn at least once each year. Sinnoh remakes will happen. Given that Dawn has never changed her outfit permanently, and that Megumi Toyoguchi said that she'll become a main cast member again. They have never revealed the name of the SM protagonists. The girl looks like she is a mixture of Dawn and Serena. With the game Dawn's black hair and black eyes and anime Serena's similar short haircut and red headwear. There is a faint possibility that they'll just drop Serena and Dawn entirely but... I really doubt it to an extent. |
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Post by satohika on Sept 3, 2016 19:03:02 GMT
Two parts of the song really peak my interest. The first one is the tandem part of the song. It can interpreted as a foreshadow of Serena choosing to follow Ash than the dream she made to become Kalos Queen. The other part is the thing about movies. To talk about a happy endings after twists and turns, it could be possible that Serena might get her happy ending without being with Ash. That's I interpret it as. One thing I appreciate is when she says "show me every last bit of your love". Ash could simply show her his love for Pokémon and his friends and the world itself. IceArceus on the bright side, she says daijoubu not how Dawn and Ash would say. It could foreshadow that if she does go to Kanto with Ash, she will meet Dawn, who is very likely to wait for Ash in Pallet Town just like Misty was in Pallet Town after Ash returned from Hoenn. The difference is that Dawn can afford to take breaks. I have a strong feeling that the much-noted, exceptionally strong bond between Ash and Dawn would be the wake up call Serena needs. While she can see Pearlshipping and can get jealous of it at first, she probably can see why Ash looks up to Dawn and has respect for her. Grace most likely wants her daughter to travel around the world with friends. Aside from shipper wars, both girls would likely end up as the best of friends. Serena's and Dawn's differing talents mesh easily together. Dawn is a clothing designer, Serena is the tailor who sews and stitches clothes. Serena is a pastry maker, Dawn is a cook. I don't believe the writers intend for any major ship to be canon, they would likely keep it open-ended but Pearl and Amour would be seen as endgame semi-canon if given enough development. They're just going to keep it ambiguous and open-ended so people can still create fanfics or fanart of Pearl and/or Amour. On the flip side, ships like Poke or Advance are going to get even more flattened. |
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Post by satohika on Sept 5, 2016 4:49:30 GMT
Fighting and arguing:
High Touch- Kenka nakanaori mata kenka We fight, make up, and then fight again (Dawn)
High Touch- Koe kakeatte
Foroo shiaeba
Omotta toori ni waza mo kimari dasu! We may argue
But as long as we follow each other
I think we’ll find a way to compromise
Candy Girl- Tokidoki kenka mo shite
Nakanaori wa zettai, yo ? Every now and then we fight
But we're always guaranteed to make up again, aren't we?
Being in a pinch:
High Touch- Tayori naru Pocchama dakedo Tokidoki wa……
Hazurechatte meccha pinchi! I’ve come to rely on Piplup, but Sometimes……
I’ll find myself in a mega pinch! (Dawn)
High Touch- Issho naraba……
Donna pinchi mo nigeteku! As long as we’re together……
We’ll escape from any kind of pinch! (Ash and Dawn, then Ash)
Candy Girl- "Kawaii" dake no Candy Girl ja nai HIIROO ga PINCHI no toki wa
Isamashiku tasuke ni tonde yuku wa I'm not just a purely "cute" Candy Girl When the hero is in a pinch,
I'll courageously swoop in to help
Being together:
High Touch- Isshou naraba
Akirameru no wa hayai ze! As long as we’re together
I won’t give up so easily!
High Touch- Issho naraba
Motto tooku ni ikeru ze! As long as we’re together……
We can go even further than before!
High Touch- Issho naraba……
Donna pinchi mo nigeteku! As long as we’re together……
We’ll escape from any kind of pinch! (Ash and Dawn, then Ash)
High Touch- Issho naraba……
Tsuyoi aitemo uerukamu! As long as we’re together……
Even a strong tailwind will be welcoming!
High Touch- Isshou naraba
Yume ni mukatte toberu ze! As long as we’re together
We can fly away, facing our dreams!
Candy Girl- Kimi to, watashi issho ni ireta nara...
Nee, muteki deshou ?
If you and I were to be together...
Hey, we'd be unbeatable, right?
Journeying:
High Touch- Hirogaru kouya ni michi ga massugu ni
Our road goes on through an ever expanding wasteland
High Touch- Kyou mo ashita mo asattemo Tabi wa zutto tsudzuiteku kedo
Itsudatte……
Sugu soba ni sono egao! Through today, tomorrow and the day after
This journey goes forever on, but
Always……
Your smile is with me!
High Touch- Kita e minami e nishi higashi
Keshiki kurukuru kawaru kedo
Doko ni datte……
Itsumo sono egao! To the north, to the south, east and west
The scenery goes on changing, but
No matter where I go……
Your smile is always there!
Candy Girl- Massugu ni sesuji nobashite
DOORII PINKU no CHIIKU de smile
Kimi no tonari onnaji hohaba de aruite itai I want to walk tall
With a smile on my dolly pink cheeks
Next to you, at the same pace as you
Candy Girl- WANPIISU wa tobikiri Girly ♪
MAIPEESU wa kuzushi takunai
Demo kimi to nara futari nori de
Susumitai kara
My summer dress is extremely girly
I don't want to stop doing things my own way
But if it's with you,
I'd like to ride tandem from here on
Candy Girl- Ii koto bakari no eiga ja tsumaranai
MERIHARI kishoutenketsu
Yosou ijou no HAPPIIENDO wo ! Movies where everything goes well all the time are boring
Some lively twists and turns
Make for happier endings than otherwise expected!
High Touches vs Holding Hands
High Touch- Sora no shita de hai tacchi!
Kotoba yori mo wakari yasui! Underneath the sky, let’s high five!
We can understand that more easily than words!
High Touch- Ude wo nobashi hai tacchi!
Egao ippai kokorodzuyoi! Extending our arms, let’s high five!
Smiling this much is so heartwarming!
High Touch- Miageru taiyou nandaka mabushikute
Umaku ittara hai tacchi!
Hekonjattemo motodoori!
The sun seems so dazzling when I look up at it
If it all goes well, let’s high five!
If we’re feeling down, we’ll come right back!
High Touch- Umaku ittara hai tacchi!
Kyou no shouri wa wasurenai! If it all goes well, let’s high five!
I won’t ever forget today’s victory!
High Touch- Umaku itta ne hai tacchi!
Batoru aite to hando shekku It all went well, so let’s high five!
Shake hands with our opponent in battle
Candy Girl- Oh, Oh, egaichaou
Oh, Oh, saidai kyuu no Love
Kimi to, watashi te wo tsunaide ireba
Nee, MIRAKURU deshou ? Oh, Oh, Let's envision
Oh, Oh, Ultimate love
When you and I hold hands
Hey, it's a miracle, right?
Relations:
High Touch- Iitai koto ippai aru kedo
Ichiban wa……
“Itekurete arigatou!” There are lots of things I want to say to you
But foremost……
“Thanks for being here for me!”
High Touch- Tabi wa michidzure yo wa nasake
Wakatta you na kao shiteru kedo
Hontou wa……
“Itekurete ureshii!” Companions on this journey, compassion in the world
I pretend to understand those things, but
The truth is……
“I’m happy you’re here for me!”
High Touch- Hekonjattemo motodoori! If we’re feeling down, we’ll come right back!
High Touch- Kotoba yori mo wakari yasui! We can understand that more easily than words!
Candy Girl- Irotoridori na kimi no kao wo shiritai kara It's because I want to learn to know every one of your colors
Candy Girl- Tsuyoki, yowaki zenbu dakishimeru yo
Maru ○ marugoto I embrace both your strengths and weaknesses
In their entirety
Candy Girl- Oh, Oh, nee, miseru yo
Oh, Oh, arittake no Love Oh, Oh, Hey, show me
Oh, Oh, Every last bit of your love
Candy Girl- Oh, Oh, egaichaou
Oh, Oh, saidai kyuu no Love Oh, Oh, Let's envision
Oh, Oh, Ultimate love
Candy Girl- Oh, Oh, daijoubu da yo
Oh, Oh, kowagarazu ni
Yuuki, genki gyutto nigirishimete Itsu・itsu demo
Oh, Oh, It'll all work out okay
Oh, Oh, There's nothing to be afraid of
I grip your courage and energy tightly
At absolutely all times
Protection:
High Touch- Mamotte kureru yo
Tasukete kureru
Protecting me
Saving me
Candy Girl- Oh, Oh, kimi no koto wo
Oh, Oh, mamotte agetai !
Oh, Oh, I want to
Oh, Oh, Protect you!
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need a break from that. I cannot express how much more I appreciate fan-translations of anything now