Johto Trainer
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OTP: Amourshipping
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Post by Games23 on Aug 10, 2016 6:42:20 GMT
I know that the Serena fans don't want her to leave the show, but they're gonna have to be strong and face it. The same thing happened with Ash's other female companions.
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Post by satohika on Aug 22, 2016 17:22:41 GMT
I don't believe that Serena would leave the series, half of the time. In all honesty, Serena was intended to not be a replacement of Dawn but rather May/Brock. Her personality traits are also opposite that of Dawn's. She is extremely attached to Ash and it takes a miracle for her to abandon him. If she does, it would be out of character for her, she's a yandere for Ash. It's not like in the case of Dawn who was independent but is tsundere for Ash. But if Serena is going to Alola, they might as well shoehorn Dawn for Alola. And people are literally wanting Piplup to come back.
I feel that someone like Tomioka would direct Sun and Moon. He gets to have his favorite two female characters Dawn and Serena in the same show.
My theory states that Dawn's name is a solar motif and Serena's name is a lunar motif. I posted a bunch of ideas relating to my theories. And in Tomioka's case, it's not like you could either be for Pearl or for Amour, you could be both. In XY22, there was a possible foreshadowing of Serena meeting Dawn's Piplup in the future.
Ash admires Dawn, Serena admires Ash, but what else is in between? Will the Sun and the Moon be best friends? Hikari is the light of the sun, Dawn is the rising of the Sun and the moon can only reflect the sun's light, she cannot be the moon. Serena is the moon, since the moon can only reflect the sun's light, she cannot be the sun.
Think of it this way. Serena would like the way how Ash admires Dawn, and that inspires her to like Ash even more. Serena can see how Dawn is a wonderful, great person in Ash's life. Serena wants to see Ash as the happy person she knows. Dawn feels that she can be great friends with Serena like she did with Ash. They also have their parallels as well as other aspects. Just like how Dawn would be an Amourshipper, Serena would also be a Pearlshipper.
Dawn had Lyra and Conway, who are analogous to Miette and Tierno for Serena.
They could have brought back Dawn for Ash's Kalos journey, but they had to complete the trinity of Ash, Dawn and Serena- the Eclipse, Sun and Moon. And because Serena just happened to be a protagonist name that can be interpreted as a name of a Greek moon goddess. That's also why since because Serena had a lunar personality, making her Dawn's opposite, they introduced Amourshipping as a lunar counterpart to the solar ship of Pearlshipping.
That's why I no longer feel antagonistic towards Serena or Amourshipping. Because that's not the bigger picture, that's not the point they wanted to make. If people think they understood Dawn and Serena, they are mistaken like I was. If they were in the show together with Ash, would they really be up against each others' throats? Aside from some shippers on both sides wanting a fight between them? Admittedly I'm not that much of a shipper.
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Post by satohika on Aug 30, 2016 22:13:20 GMT
If they understood the characters of Serena and Dawn, they didn't have to make such a pointless petition.
My prediction regarding Serena is that her mother finally convinces her for the first time, to leave Kalos and go to Kanto. Grace overheard Yashio at the time when Yashio noticed Serena's capabilities. Serena hardly ever took her mother's advice and resented being trained as a Rhyhorn racer. Her mother often didn't have Serena's best interests at heart but will likely change near the end of XYZ. Serena after TF arc would likely consider Yashio's offer or leaving Kalos for Kanto but her mother steps in and convinces her otherwise before Ash leaves. If it were early XY Serena, she would stay in Kalos, but since this is XYZ Serena we're talking about, she became more mature. Early XY Serena just had a simple crush on Ash and can be rather selfish about it, but she underwent character development as she accepts Ash's flaws and understood why she felt strong feelings for him. The song Candy Girl represents Serena's thoughts of Ash. Because Serena finally takes her mother's advice, this would be a step in evolving her character. If Dawn were in Serena's shoes, she won't listen to her mother and would stay in Kalos for the sake of her career.
Serena's retention in the main cast is actually a major indicator or prerequisite for Dawn's return, though with a small chance of it being optional to Dawn's return. Sending Serena alone to the next gen series is tantamount to saying that Amourshipping is canon. This is where Dawn, the most important girl in Ash's life steps in. Dawn and Serena as I've said before were made to be BFFs. We know about Ash's wellbeing after he left Dawn, but what do we know about Dawn? Could she have suffered the same problems as Ash, without Ash being by her side? Could Dawn have been hiding her true emotional state from Ash when she had her BW cameo? We know Ash keeps up with Dawn in BW but what's really up with Dawn?
And Serena won't be making a confession any time soon, only when she feels that when she establishes a strong enough bond with Ash (at the same level as Dawn's) she will consider confessing at like the end of the series. I think Alola might be take about 1-2 years then they move on back to Sinnoh, Kalos or Kanto. Or some other region. But Sinnoh is quite likely since Ash hasn't conquered the Sinnoh Battle Frontier yet.
Honestly, I don't want them to make Amour canon, though I have a slight fear that they might do it. Let's hope the writers pull through and bring back Dawn for Alola.
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Sinnoh Trainer
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Post by Nafsika on Jan 17, 2017 21:31:57 GMT
It`s just kinda annoying to have Amourshippers to demand all these stuff!!! I mean they are everywhere!!!! I can hear my thoughts for all this noise they make!!!! We also have our preference but we don't do it such a big deal!!! We wait patiently!!!!
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